Stuart, Mike and Suzy from Holloway Friendly on new business strategies and paying claims – MAF162

This week I talk to Stuart, Mike and Suzy from Holloway Friendly Society.

We talk about the new strategy they’ve developed for the company, and how they’re making claims a  focus for their customer service.

Welcome to episode 162 of the Marketing and Finance Podcast.

What you’ll hear about in this episode

  • How Holloway Friendly has succeeded as a smaller business within UK financial services
  • Protection insurance market challenges
  • Putting together a new strategy for business development
  • Showing insurance claims in a positive light
  • Why sharing true stories helps customers
  • How Holloway deal with the claims process

Who are the new team at Holloway Friendly Society?

Stuart Tragheim

The CEO. He’s worked in financial services for more than 30 years. Before joining Holloway, Stuart worked for large organisations in sales, marketing, distribution and technical departments

Mike Taylor

Chief Operating Officer. He’s worked in claims and underwriting for the past 25 years. Mike’s worked on Association of British Insurers and other technical committees and been part of underwriting groups. He enjoys innovating and modernising the customer journey

Suzy Esson

Head of Member Services, looking after claims, underwriting and member admin. She’s worked in claims and underwriting for 27 years. Her passion is claims, and she likes being able to make a difference to someone when they need support the most

Summary of our chat

Holloway don’t have the budget to compete against the bigger financial services companies. However, they’re specialists, and compete in different areas, such as point of claim. They deal with customers and their families in a more holistic way preferring not to compete on price. This is how they stand out in the marketplace.

The issues facing the protection market haven’t changed for many years. More customers and advisers need to understand why they need protection. And then have the means to get appropriate advice. There’s too much focus on supply and not demand. Holloway want to educate the market, especially on income protection.

We need more positive stories in the media about insurance and claims. It’s important to evolve and bring products to life. Many people don’t understand insurance products. Or how underwriting is done and how claims are paid. These are key messages for Holloway, as well as a focus on making products more attractive by being fairer and more inclusive.

Holloway want to share real-life stories of how they’ve touched people’s lives – it’s not just about honouring the policy. That’s the essence of what they do, and they want to make it apparent to advisers and customers that they’re looking for ways to support members to regain quality of life.

Holloway have made changes to their claims management, including the introduction of tele-claims to replace claim forms, allowing them to obtain information upfront, including photos of medications. Members can give explanations over the phone, which saves time and helps reach decisions quickly. Holloway paid 96% of claims in 2017.

Holloway start working with their members as soon as they receive a claim, to understand their needs and give the right support. They often fast track and fund health treatment.  Waive deferred periods And engaged with rehabilitation providers to help members get better quicker.

What changes would the team like to see in the financial services industry?

Stuart

Marketing messages and plans don’t make a difference.–Consumer engagement is how you bring about change. For Holloway, the focus is on securing trust one customer at a time, rather than running a generic marketing campaign.

The industry needs to be more proactive with the media and the government so insurers are seen as part of the solution rather than part of the problem. There are historical examples of insurers shooting themselves in the foot, and that has to change.

Mike

There’s an issue around inclusivity, and some people feel they don’t have access to insurance. There needs to be more awareness and bring the positive stories to life, so it’s clear that these are real people who’ve benefited.

Suzy

It’s about getting the balance right between automation and the human touch, and make a decision based on the situation rather than the rules. Holloway try to do this, so we reach decisions and pay people quickly. They want to give people tailored support.

A marketing campaign or product the team loves

Royal London and The Exeter, insurance providers have moved into offering life cover for diabetics. It opens up the market and is a great development for the financial services industry.

Another highlight the Marks and Spencer TV campaign for “spend it well”, where they showed clothes and food in adverts at the same time – very clever!

Books the team recommend

A life changing book for Stuart was Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen R. Covey. If you can move from the superficial aspect and internalise the messages, it can change your life. Stuart has kept it close to him over the last two decades.

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Debbie Bolton on underwriting, simpler protection and trust – MAF158m

This week we dive back into the world of financial services and protection. My guest is Debbie Bolton.

We talk about underwriting, protection product development and whether products and processes are getting simpler for customers.

Welcome to episode 158 of the Marketing and Finance Podcast.

Debbie Bolton on underwriting, simpler protection and trust - MAF158

What you’ll hear about in this episode

  • A simple definition of underwriting anyone can understand
  • The role of an underwriting development team in an insurance company
  • How AIG Life is speeding up the application process for protection products
  • Why the industry is trying to simplify insurance products
  • How AIG Life works with financial advisers
  • Why trust is a three-way process

Who is Debbie Bolton?

Debbie works for AIG Life. She’s responsible for claims and underwriting strategy. She’s been in the insurance industry for 20 years. 17 in underwriting. The role was completely different when she started, for example, paper-based with stacks of case files.

Starting off in smaller companies, Debbie progressed in her career, moving to Ageas (as AIG was then) as manager for the underwriting development team. The company represented innovation, technology and automation. It was an exciting place. And she says it still does. Debbie says the work is fast-paced, and she loves her job.

Summary of our chat

Underwriting is the combination of science and maths to work out a price for a customer. It looks at an individual’s health, their hobbies, occupational risks and where they travel. Healthy office-workers will pay a lower price than unhealthy people in dangerous jobs.  But the aim is to charge as little as they can so everyone benefits.

Debbie’s team differs from typical underwriters. They set the philosophy of the company.  They’re involved in all AIG Life’s developments. From products to technology. They manage the rules engine, to incrementally and continuously improve the processes for assessing, simplifying and pricing risk.

AIG Life is aiming its “Instant” product at younger, healthier customers who want to take out protection at speed. The application process has no interruptions. So after completing a form, a person knows straight away whether or not they’ve got cover. AIG Life came up with a shorter list of questions people can complete quickly. It offers a favourable price.

Debbie says companies are simplifying products and the processes. She explains that AIG Life customers want instant results. They want their insurance policy as quickly as possible. The shorter quiz has specific questions for identifying risks that would increase premiums. It often cuts out the need for medical evidence.

The response to the “Instant” product has been overwhelmingly positive from financial advisers. AIG Life has a team of underwriters who speak to advisers every day. Their feedback gives the strategy team a better understanding of the issues they face and helps product development.

There needs to be trust between the customers, the advisers and the underwriters in insurance companies. Being available to the advisers builds trust with them, particularly those writing complex cases, so they know they’re getting the best rates. AIG Life want the public to have confidence in their automated service, and to trust the information they offer.

The one thing she’d like listeners to take away

Underwriters and claims assessors are the technicians of the whole case. They decide if a case can be underwritten or a claim paid. As a rule, underwriters start from yes; they want to get a case on the books or pay a claim, as quickly as possible. They don’t want to say no to people.

A marketing campaign or product Debbie loves

Debbie’s recently been impressed with parcel delivery. Wanting to send something to New Zealand at Christmas, she researched a quick and simple solution to get it there in time. She found a company online which gave her a competitive quote, collected her parcel and shipped it six hours after she started looking.

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Louise Harnby on self-publishing, marketing strategies and why branding matters – MAF157

My guest on the show this week is Louise Harnby.

If you’ve got a novel in you and you’re looking to get it published, Louise has some great advice to give. We also talk about how she’s built her personal brand and about how she markets her business.

Welcome to episode 157 of the Marketing and Finance Podcast.

Louise Harnby on self-publishing, marketing strategies and why branding matters - MAF157

What you’ll hear about in this episode

  • The importance of sharing your story in your own voice
  • Why self-published authors deserve professional editing services
  • How Louise got into content marketing
  • Why brand identity is essential
  • Why marketing advice should be given in plain language
  • What’s gone well and what hasn’t as she’s built her personal brand

Who is Louise Harnby?

Louise started out working in-house for an academic publishing house in the 90s. After she had a child, she decided to reassess her work-life balance and set up her own copyediting and proofreading business.

Today, she helps self-publishing authors to prepare their fiction books for market. A passionate advocate for storytelling, she found herself disagreeing with ‘literary snobs’ who say writers need a mainstream publisher, as she believes everyone should be able to share their words.

Summary of our chat

Writing is a great way of bringing clarity to your thoughts – to consolidate and structure them. When you create your own words, you know they’ve got your heart and voice in them. Writers sometimes worry that an editor will take that away. But Louise’s job let the voice of the author speak.

A writer may have a great idea for a book. But there a big enough market may not exist for the publisher to bother with it. However, the writer should still go through the same stages of production. That’s where people like Louise come in.  To smooth and correct the text so readers enjoy the story.

Louise loves marketing and found content marketing by accident. She didn’t read up on it. Her blog, created to answer frequently asked questions and save time, started showing up in search results. She realised that adding value and giving away advice for free was helping her to show up in search.

To attract independent authors, Louise realised she needed a strong brand identity. She found much advice telling her what she should have but not how to create it. And the advice was full of jargon. Defining her identity has led to more enquiries from her target market.

The language used to talk about marketing from an academic point of view can make people feel excluded. It’s valuable to learn from people who speak in plain language and speak to you in a way you understand. Otherwise, you’re made to feel different or not cool enough for marketing.

Louise learned a valuable lesson about segmenting mailing lists when she had subscribers getting the same messages twice. A problem she quickly fixed. She says that becoming more efficient with marketing saves time.  And it’s important you are authentic with your content and to give people the best advice.

The one thing she’d like listeners to take away

If you feel like you’re running around like a headless chicken when it comes to marketing, invest some of your budget on pro marketing and advice. This means you can make strategies and not worry about what to do.

A marketing campaign or product Louise loves

Louise thinks chatbots are the most exciting development. She’s used them in her own business. And explains that although they’re high-tech, you don’t have to be techy to use them. They’re easy to create and you can build an effective marketing campaign in no time.

Recommended books

Louise couldn’t pick just one book!

Write to be Published, by Nicola Morgan, is a comprehensive guide on how to write a book that’s readable and publishable, whether fiction or non-fiction.

She also recommends Sticky Marketing, by Grant Leboff, which looks at building trust and engagement.

Finally, Andrew and Pete’s The Hippo Campus, which talks about standing out and getting noticed in a crowded market.

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