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Chris Skinner on FinTech, cryptocurrency and corporate change – MAF155

On the show this week, I talk to leading commentator and strategist on financial markets, Chris Skinner.

We chat about FinTech, blockchain, cryptocurrency and why corporate change is difficult in established financial businesses.

Welcome to episode 155 of the Marketing and Finance Podcast.

Chris Skinner on FinTech, cryptocurrency and corporate change - MAF155

What you’ll hear about in this episode

  • What Chris believes is holding financial organisations back
  • How some companies are embracing change
  • Why financial services companies need a technologist on the leadership team
  • How consumers respond to new technologies
  • How small businesses can apply new technologies
  • What blockchain and cryptocurrencies mean for the future

Who is Chris Skinner?

A worldwide, leading commentator and strategist on financial markets, Chris is the Chief Executive of “The Finanser” and the Chairman of The Financial Services Club, with a focus on commentating on FinTech.

He has a background in insurance and a career working with technology companies, starting out selling office automation systems to insurance companies.

Made redundant in 2002 after running strategy for big organisations, Chris went searching for a job. He socialised with loads people in financial services and wrote articles about his conversations. This led him to where he is today. Attending international conferences and producing a daily blog about FinTech.

Summary of our chat

We see issues in leadership in financial services because the leaders are swamped with regulation compliance and risk. They resist change. Digital technology is transforming every aspect of insurance and banking. But boardrooms are full of similar people. There’s not enough diversity and this hinders change.

AXA Insurance has partnered with a start-up called Trov in the “InsureTech” space. You can insure items for a few hours when you take them out of the house. You don’t need an annual insurance policy anymore. Just take it when you need cover.

With a focus on digital banking,  digital insurance and FinTech,  if financial services companies don’t have a technologist on the leadership team, they’ll find change difficult. But the real issue is about culture, which can also change. The leadership needs to embrace change and allow the culture to adapt accordingly.

Most consumers don’t know what the possibilities of these new technologies are. But they quickly embrace things that they recognise can improve their lives. For example, the iPhone is only 10 years old, yet smartphones are pervasive. Consumers will adopt anything they can use simply to make life easier.

For small businesses to adopt new technologies, they need to imagine they’re starting up today.  Focus on how customers do things, and how to help them live better through technology. They need to compare the current company with an idea of the future of the business and work towards that.

Blockchain technology is transformational and will change the way we look at business and finance. Look at Ethereum, the second-biggest cryptocurrency, which the financial firms are investing in,  or Hyperledger, the technology IBM is embracing. Don’t put money you can’t afford to lose into cryptocurrencies.

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The iPhone X is something everyone is looking at with interest, because of the facial recognition aspect. Any new product that can change authentication or make it easier for people to come onboard is something Chris is automatically excited about.

Recommended Books

Chris’s next book, out in March, is The Digital Human and looks at the fourth revolution in humanity. The first revolution was becoming human, or homo sapiens.

Chris says his favourite book is Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari, which is the history of humanity and how we got to where we are today. There were six other forms of humans on earth and we’re the only ones to survive, and the book explains how this happened.

His other favourite book is Trekonomics by Manu Saadia, about the economics of Star Trek. He says, “I’m looking forward to the future and the potential for space travel, and Star Trek is about optimism and a utopian vision for our future”.

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Marketing isn’t just about communications – MAF154

In this week’s show, it’s just me and the mic.

And I tackle a subject I see coming up more and more. Marketing isn’t just about communications.

It’s such an important subject you can either listen to the podcast episode or read the following post. Or both.

Welcome to episode 154 of the Marketing and Finance Podcast.

Marketing isn't just about communications - MAF154

Marketing isn’t just about communications

And by communications, I mean advertising, promotions, websites, content, social media, email, snail-mail and any medium putting a message in front of a customer.

All these activities are an important part of marketing but there’s more to marketing than this.

Much more.

But pick up a clipboard and get yourself out on the street and ask people, “What is marketing?” and I bet many would answer, “Advertising”.

Some might say spam email, cold calling or being pestered by pop-ups. Perhaps a few would say social media. Fewer would say content like blogs, podcasts and ebooks. Communications, collectively, would be the most popular answer.

As a marketer with more than 25 years’ experience, I know there’s much more to marketing than communications. They drummed it into me at college and in my many junior marketing roles until I’d worked my way up the corporate ladder high enough to drum it into those working for me.

I remember my first interview for a full-on marketing role. In the job description, they explained the successful candidate would be responsible for the “strategy and marketing mix” for the product range.

“The marketing mix!”

Not a phrase you hear much these days. You’ll find it on university syllabuses and in marketing textbooks. Where you won’t hear it used much is in marketing departments.

The marketing manager interviewing me for the role, the guy who turned out to be my future boss, asked me to explain my understanding of “strategy and marketing mix”.

I sifted through the memories of my college course and the work experience I’d had to date.

Something like this came out of my mouth, “Strategy is setting out the goal and planning to meet the goal by meeting a customer need. The marketing mix is the tactics we use to fulfil the strategy.”

I may have used clunkier, more jargon words than that, but this was many years before I developed my obsession with simplicity in marketing.

My future manager seemed pleased with my articulation of a strategy and a goal. He urged me to explain the tactics available within the marketing mix.

Straight from the textbooks, I plucked the good old “Four Ps of Marketing”. The product. The price you charge for it. The place you sell it. And what you do to promote it.

Place is really the distribution, of course. But I guess whoever invented the Four Ps had to call it something beginning with a “P”. Otherwise, it wouldn’t have been the Four Ps. It would have been the Three Ps and a D.

He must have liked my answers because he gave me the job.

Research

And he taught me a great deal over the next few years. In our weekly review meetings, the need to balance strategy with tactics was a fixed agenda item. Getting the strategy nailed before diving into the tactics was his constant refrain.

A stickler for research, my boss wouldn’t let me do anything without evidence to back up the decision.

As good and important as these lessons were, at the time I felt a little frustrated.

I was a young marketer. I wanted to write brochures and advertising copy. I wanted to work with the agencies on the creatives. Research was dull. Strategy was painful. I wanted to get my hands on the exciting stuff.

But as I said he was a stickler. We did the research. Put the strategy in place and then we got on with the tactics. Our company grew its market share. The balance worked.

From my studies, I’d always known, on paper marketing, wasn’t just about communications, but here I was living it and breathing it and seeing it succeed.

Now 25 years later I hear so many companies talking about marketing as if it is, in fact, just about the communications.

Influencers

And listening to the advice of some marketing influencers I can see why some do think it’s just about communications.

Influencers say you need to be on Twitter doing “Twitter Marketing”. They say you need to be doing live video. They say you need to be blogging.

The marketing influencers influence. I’ll talk to a potential client and they’ll say, “We need to be on Twitter. Can you help us get our Twitter marketing right?”

Or.

“We need to be doing a live video”.

Or.

“And we need to be blogging.”

All these activities are perfectly legitimate tactics in any marketing strategy. The problem is we seem to have forgotten marketing involves more than just the tactics of communication.

Perhaps it’s because many of these influencers have specific, often superb, communication skills.

They may be incredibly successful on Instagram. They may have hundreds of thousands of subscribers on YouTube. Millions of followers on Twitter.

The world’s media hail them as marketing gurus and conference organisers invite them onto stages in giant auditoriums.

And while some have wider marketing pedigrees, others are solely experts in their chosen type of communication.

There’s nothing wrong with this, of course. These influencers work hard and deserve their success and their accolades.

But they can perpetuate the view marketing is just about the communications. Have we forgotten about research, strategy and the other components of what academics call the marketing mix? The tactical tools of product, price, place and promotion.

Perhaps we have, and I can understand why. Thinking back to “young me” I remember my eagerness to get to grips with writing brochures and ad copy and work with creative agencies.

Today the communications toys are so much sexier. Social media. Apps. Web platforms. Email. Bots. AI. VR. Programmatic.

The shiny toys seduce all marketers, me included. No wonder everyone wants to play with the tactical toys. Who wants to bother with all the boring academic stuff?

Research?  No thanks.

Strategy? Please.

The Four Ps? Nah that’s for naff old college professors.

As stuffy as it may seem, and as shiny as the toys have become, before you can dive into communications, promotions, advertising, engagement or whatever you want to call it, you must have a strategy.

Strategy without using the word “strategy”

If the word strategy makes you go cold inside or creates a sinking feeling in your stomach – perhaps you’ve been involved in one of those endless corporate away day sessions – don’t call it strategy. But you still need to do it.

From a traditional academic standpoint, this means segmenting the customer base, targeting a segment of those customers and putting together a proposition to meet those customer’s needs.

Sometimes, often in big corporates, this is where the process gets painful. Mired in SWOT analysis. PEST analysis. Boston Grids, Ansoff’s Matrices and Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs, the analysis paralysis puts many people off the “S” word. Again, these are legitimate, tried and trusted exercises, but don’t make it so complicated.

Keep it simple.

As a marketer who’s tried to keep things simple for a couple of decades now, I like to try and get through this using as little jargon or mumbo jumbo as possible. Or at least come up with easy to understand alternatives.

Instead of proposition let’s use “offer”. To get to an offer we must understand the customer.

Offer

Start by answering this question. “Who is my customer?” And be pinpoint exact. That’s the segmentation bit.

Millennials aren’t a segment. “Everyone in the UK between the ages of 20 and 50” isn’t a segment. Be specific and get to know what their needs are. Listen. Do research. Get on social media.

Use what you hear to discover what their needs and problems are. Once you know this you can come up with something that meets their need or solves their problem.

This is your offer. A product or a service that meets your customer’s need or solves your customer’s problem better than anyone else. The “better than anyone else” bit is your competitive advantage.

From your offer, you’ll be able to create your positioning statements (Depending upon the stage of your business development you can find your brand, vision and mission from these too – that’s another long article in itself). Let’s keep it simple and just call them “your whys”.

Goal

Once you have your offer, define your goal. Is it to make a certain level of profit? Bring in a target amount of revenue? Get so many customers. Achieve a percentage market share.

So now you have a target market.

You have an offer to meet the needs of that market.

You have a goal.

(That’s your strategy by the way – but we’re avoiding the “S” word, aren’t we?)

Activity

Now you can start to think about the tactics or as I like to call it simply the activity to support your offer and goal. Here’s where we move into Four Ps territory (or depending on which course you studied or which books you read, the Seven Ps or even the Eleven Ps).

The product or service is part of your offer. As is the price. You can change and refine these as you get feedback from your customers. There’s also distribution – that thing academics call, “place”.

And finally, we get to promotions or communications.

Or maybe we’ll call it engagement because it may also include content and social media instead of just advertising. And because you know your customer intimately, you’ll know where to communicate with them and on what platforms. You’ll better understand which of the shiny toys are relevant to your customers and which aren’t.

All of that put together is marketing. Marketing isn’t just about communications.

Let’s recap.

  • Research
  • Who’s the customer?
  • What’s their need or their problem?
  • Your offer.
  • Why your offer is better
  • Your whys
  • Product/Service
  • Price
  • Distribution
  • Communications

So, if communication is only one out of 10 things to think about when putting together a marketing strategy – why do so many people think marketing is just the last bit? And why do so many of the influencers, we hail as marketing experts,  only talk about the last bit? The communication?

As I said earlier because it’s exciting. We love shiny new toys. We want to jump straight into the communication because it feels like “real” marketing.

But without the other components of a marketing strategy, it’s possible the tactics of communication will fail.

Now it’s your turn:

Do you need help with your marketing strategy? Do you want to keep it simple? I’d love to work with you. Get in touch and let’s talk. And if you enjoyed this podcast episode and blog – please share it on social media and among your friends and colleagues.

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Top 10 Marketing and Finance Podcast Episodes of 2017

We hit 150 episodes in 2017.

That’s incredible. Thanks for all your support and feedback over the last 3 years.

I’m delighted to have reached the 150 episode milestone and already have a stack of great interviews already in the bag for 2018. So watch this space.

In the meantime, here’s a rundown of the 10 most downloaded episodes of the Marketing and Finance Podcast in 2018.

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Iona Bain on the Young Money Blog and financial education – MAF120

Iona Bain on the Young Money Blog and financial education - MAF120

Thor Holt on perfecting presentations and pitches and killing confirmation bias – MAF118

Thor Holt on perfecting presentations and pitches and killing confirmation bias - MAF118

David Smith on using widget technology to improve how insurance is bought and sold – MAF115

insurance is bought and sold

James Daley on Fairer Finance and raising standards in financial services customer experience – MAF116

raising standards in financial services customer experience

Andy Philo on Serious Illness Cover and rewards for understanding and improving your health – MAF122

Andy Philo on Serious Illness Cover and rewards for understanding and improving your health - MAF122

Paul Avis, Max Marchant and Donna Wray on promoting early intervention services – MAF136

Paul Avis, Max Marchant and Donna Wray on promoting early intervention services - MAF136

Helen Wilkie on writing, publishing and marketing your business book – MAF121

Helen Wilkie on writing, publishing and marketing your business book - MAF121

Jonathan David Lewis on Brand vs Wild and building resilient businesses – MAF133

Jonathan David Lewis on Brand vs Wild and building resilient businesses

Maggie Johnson on virtual assistance, event management and marketing services – MAF119

Maggie Johnson on virtual assistance, event management and marketing services - MAF119

Jon Norton on marketing lessons from building a stand-out accountancy brand – MAF134

Jon Norton on marketing lessons from building a stand-out accountancy brand - MAF134

Now it’s your turn:

Thanks for listening to the Marketing and Finance Podcast in 2017. What was your favourite episode? Please let me know.

And if you’d like to appear on the show, please get in touch. You could be one of my next guests.